Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 07:57:31 -1000 From: JBENEDICT@law.fordham.edu (Jason Benedict) Message-Id: <950404135731.20e01344@LAW.FORDHAM.EDU> Organization: Harvard University Office of Information Technology Subject: Hindenburg and X4i >Peter Werba's new indoor kite >The X4i was great fun. This is a 4' kite made of icarex on solid graphite. >It flies quite well and does a nice axel (and yes, Jason, I did do an >axel-back with it...HA!) > Yeesh !! Teach a guy one trick and he's on ya forever ! I have no doubts... I have only flown that once or twice ( at convention ) and that was before I new about that trick. I'd love to get another crack at it though ( especially now that YOU'VE done it ! ) Just kidding... anyway.. glad you guys all had a good time.. I hope i can get to the next one JJ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 05:16:29 -1000 From: bwg001@carina.unm.edu (Brian W. Gordon) Message-Id: <3m3l0d$pt9@lynx.unm.edu> Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Subject: Re: Hindenburg and X4i Jason Benedict (JBENEDICT@LAW.FORDHAM.EDU) wrote: : : >Peter Werba's new indoor kite : >The X4i was great fun. This is a 4' kite made of icarex on solid graphite. : >It flies quite well and does a nice axel (and yes, Jason, I did do an : >axel-back with it...HA!) : > : Yeesh !! Teach a guy one trick and he's on ya forever ! : I have no doubts... I have only flown that once or twice ( at convention ) : and that was before I new about that trick. I'd love to get another : crack at it though ( especially now that YOU'VE done it ! ) : Just kidding... anyway.. glad you guys all had a good time.. I hope i can : get to the next one : JJ A what? An Axel-Back? Oooh Oooooh a new axel related move! Teach me. Teach me. Me too. Me too. I even have my own X4i. -keith kidder PS: Anybody know how I can get ahold of Peter Werba? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 18:42:41 -1000 From: jburka@Glue.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) Message-Id: <3m5481$4om@geog20.umd.edu> Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Subject: Re: Hindenburg and X4i In article <3m3l0d$pt9@lynx.unm.edu>, Brian W. Gordon wrote: >A what? An Axel-Back? Oooh Oooooh a new axel related move! Teach me. An axel-back is basically just two axels in a row, 'cept that the second one is in the opposite direction and the kite never pops out of the flat spin position. Axel the kite like you normally would and then while it's still flat, just before it's getting ready to pop out of the axel position, you axel in the other direction. It's as much if not more counter-intuitive than an axel, because you're manipulating a line that you think you ought to keep slack. Other than forcing your brain around the issue, it's not a particularly tough thing to do. I find it particularly easy with the X4i indoors because the kite axels slowly and you have plenty of time to pop it back in the other direction. An axel-back on its own is reasonably interesting (especially to someone familiar with an axel, because the kite does something you just do _not_ expect). It's a hell of a lot more interesting when you do a whole sequence of them, dropping the kite down the center of the entire window height. I was able to do this fairly easily with a Flash from Goodwind Kites. The other really cool axel-back takes place on the ground -- axel from one tip to another -- just as the kite is setting down on the new tip, axel it back to where it came from. The first time I saw this done properly was a bit disturbing...very nifty trick. >PS: Anybody know how I can get ahold of Peter Werba? I imagine Steve Thomas could answer that question... Jeff -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | Pithy, insightful quote to be inserted | | | when one occurs to me. *If* one occurs | |jeffy@glue.umd.edu | to me. | = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 07:03:33 -1000 From: JBENEDICT@law.fordham.edu (Jason Benedict) Message-Id: <950411130333.20e039bc@LAW.FORDHAM.EDU> Organization: Harvard University Office of Information Technology Subject: Hindenburg and X4i : >The X4i was great fun. This is a 4' kite made of icarex on solid graphite. : >It flies quite well and does a nice axel (and yes, Jason, I did do an : >axel-back with it...HA!) : > >A what? An Axel-Back? Oooh Oooooh a new axel related move! Teach me. >Teach me. Me too. Me too. I even have my own X4i. > >-keith kidder Hmm.. Not being known for my teaching prowess, I'll leave it up to Jeff Burka and Steve Thomas and those guys who are really good at giving "on-line" flying help. Basically, the kites axels in one direction and then immediatley back the other way. Looks pretty cool. Much like the kite hit an opposite magnetic pole. probably isnt the right name for it, but that's what it looked like it should be called Brian Champie showed it to me at the convention last year. SO i don't even take credit for inventing it. Jason = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 21:19:48 -1000 From: pamlim@uclink3.berkeley.edu (McAlister/Lim) Message-Id: <3mns2k$26m@agate.berkeley.edu> Organization: University of California, Berkeley Subject: Re: Hindenburg and X4i Jason Benedict (JBENEDICT@LAW.FORDHAM.EDU) wrote: : Basically, the kites axels in one direction and then immediatley back : the other way. Looks pretty cool. Much like the kite hit an opposite : magnetic pole. : probably isnt the right name for it, but that's what it looked like : it should be called : Brian Champie showed it to me at the convention last year. SO i don't even take : credit for inventing it. Jason, I think Brian was the first to do this move. He calls it a "Left-Right". See Ya, Tom McAlister -- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =