Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 20:51:07 -1000 From: kyteman@aol.com Message-Id: <9312140151.tn08474@aol.com> Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University Subject: Re: Wind Toys, AKA, and KTA I'd like to respond to several postings, which I won't quote verbatim because it's easier not to shuffle through all those messages. << What is AKA doing about it? >> AKA takes no position. We're not a trade association; we haven't entered into this kind of dispute, nor, for that matter, do we arbitrate much of anything. [but I'm sure if you polled the board, they would be nearly unanimous in opposing rip-offs, of which there are many guilty parties.] << What is KTA's role? >> [I'll not comment Dick Bell's cheap shot that they're there to double the realized profit of kite sales--except to say that, as I'm sure Dean Jordan will attest, few get rich in the kite trade.] KTA, Marty's comments notwithstanding, is more than a promoter and the sponsor of the annual trade show. KTA is the only forum for the trade to discuss such issues as rip-offs. According to KTA's by-laws, their purposes also include the following: * to consider and deal by all lawful means with ...problems...such as those involved in ... production, distribution, sales, promotion, and financial functions of the kite industry; to foster cooperative action in advancing ... the common purposes of the members .... * ... promulgating policies and conducting activities for the betterment of those individuals or firms involved in the kite industry. * ... To conduct or engage in all lawful activities in furtherance of the foregoing purposes...." There is also a KTA code of ethics, but it doesn't speak to the matter of knockoffs; most of the questions that have been raised, to my somewhat obsolete knowledge, relate to price fixing or ripping off of trade NAMES, not designs. At the risk of reopening that dead horse (isn't that picturesque?), I would say that intellectual property rights are properly and most effectively enforced through the courts. AKA, for example, can hold merchants to **AKA's** member discount and advertising policies, but can't and shouldn't arbitrate between merchants. Likewise, KTA can bring pressure to bear on its members, but can't control those members, and sure as hell can't control those kite traders who have chosen not to be members. [Just for the record, Sasaki Kite Fabrications, at last report, was not a member of KTA (and I mean no pejorative connotation); both Jordan and Wind Toys -- and AKA -- are, and I was a charter member retailer and used to edit their newsletter.] All that being said, I agree (and did so when I was in the trade) with those in this group who have said, in essence, ripoffs suck. The only way for right-minded retailers -- and rec.kiters -- to deal with them is not to buy them. brooks leffler kyteman@aol.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =