Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:51:51 -1000 From: dgomberg@ednet1.osl.or.gov (David Gomberg) Message-Id: <4b6u3n$69r@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Organization: Eastern Oregon State College Subject: Trivia Quesation #10 Trivia Question #10 Who invented the Cody Kite? Where was he or she born and where did they die (generally). -- David Gomberg phone 503-996-3083 Box 113, Neotsu Oregon 97364 USA fax 503-994-9692 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 17:42:26 -1000 From: pcfbop@aol.com (PCF BOP) Message-Id: <4bal32$325@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: Trivia Quesation #10 Ulysses S. Grant Current address Grants Tomb = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 10:30:02 -1000 From: xalurker2x@aol.com (XALurker2x) Message-Id: <4bf4ga$ib8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: Trivia Quesation #10 >Dave asks >Who invented the Cody Kite? Samuel F. Cody >Where was he or she born and where did they die (generally). Born Birdville, TX in 1861 and He died in Aldershot, England in 1913. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:31:00 -1000 From: bgl@aol.com (BGL) Message-Id: <4bf82k$jq9@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: Trivia Quesation #10 Why, Buffalo Bill Cody, of course. He died at Little Big Horn, or was it Wounded Knee? brooks = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 14:36:49 -1000 From: dgomberg@ednet1.osl.or.gov (David Gomberg) Message-Id: <4bfiv1$mi9@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Organization: Eastern Oregon State College Subject: Re: Trivia Quesation #10 xalurker2x writes: Dave asks >Who invented the Cody Kite? Samuel F. Cody >Where was he or she born and where did they die (generally). Born Birdville, TX in 1861 and He died in Aldershot, England in 1913. Absolutely correct! Ta-Daa! (Sound of winning buzzer...) BTW - I hear that Cody's house in Aldershot has been torn down to build what we yanks would call a highway on-ramp. Cody, as some of you will know, was also the first person to cross the English Channel in an aircraft. -- David Gomberg phone 503-996-3083 Box 113, Neotsu Oregon 97364 USA fax 503-994-9692 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 09:25:33 -1000 From: Jon & Gill Bloom <100255.116@CompuServe.COM> Message-Id: <4bhl3e$qul$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> Organization: The Kite Society of Great Britain Subject: Re: Trivia Quesation #10 Sorry but the first person to cross the channel in an aircraft was Louis Bleriot. There is also a rumour that Cody wasn't born in Birdville but we can't find the reference at the moment (it is definitely in the filing somewhere!). All the best to all for the New Year. Gill and Jon Bloom -- The Kite Society of Great Britain = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 08:53:59 -1000 From: coreykite@aol.com (Coreykite) Message-Id: <4bhj87$b7u@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: Trivia Quesation #10 Excuse me David... S.F. Cody was NOT the first to cross the English Channel in an airplane. He crossed the channel towed by a kite while riding in a boat. Bleriot was the first to fly the channel. >From France to England. S.F. Cody was killed in an airplane crash ( a Wright Flyer built under license in England) Hope this helps. aoxomoxoa coreykite@aol.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 14:24:46 -1000 From: charlie@akg.u-net.com (Charlie Charlton) Message-Id: <4bjsof$nnf@oveja.u-net.net> Organization: The Artistic Kite Group Subject: Re: Trivia Quesation #10 Jon & Gill Bloom <100255.116@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >Sorry but the first person to cross the channel in an aircraft >was Louis Bleriot. I think a balloonist might have done it first Charlie = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 18:08:51 -1000 From: dgomberg@ednet1.osl.or.gov (David Gomberg) Message-Id: <4bqgsj$aig@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Organization: Eastern Oregon State College Subject: Re: Trivia Quesation #10 Ooops... So Cody *wasn't* the first to cross the Channel in an airplane. Thanks everyone for the correction. But why is it I get more response to a wrong answer, then I do to my questions?? Happy New Year to all of you. Hope the holidays went well. -- David Gomberg phone 503-996-3083 Box 113, Neotsu Oregon 97364 USA fax 503-994-9692 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:24:17 -1000 From: coh@i-2000.com (Chuck Henderson) Message-Id: Organization: I-2000 Inc. - Internet Services Subject: Re: Trivia Quesation #10 In article <4bqgsj$aig@ednet1.osl.or.gov>, dgomberg@ednet1.osl.or.gov (David Gomberg) wrote: > Ooops... So Cody *wasn't* the first to cross the Channel > in an airplane. Thanks everyone for the correction. > > But why is it I get more response to a wrong answer, then I do > to my questions?? > > Happy New Year to all of you. Hope the holidays went well. > > -- > David Gomberg phone 503-996-3083 > Box 113, Neotsu Oregon 97364 USA fax 503-994-9692 Well, David; you asked, so I figure it's okay to put my two cents in, even though I haven't been around here very long. I've been looking at the Trivia Questions, and I have a hard time relating to them. Fergeddabout knowing the answers! The questions seem to be designed for the elite members of the kite flying community, ie; those who attend and compete at all the festivals and know that so-and-so won such-and-such event; guys and gals who know the names of all the board members on the AKA, or where and when a particular event was held, or who designed a particular kite, etc.... How about some questions for us beginners? Like "When flying in front of an upwind obstruction, how far away from it should you (and your kite) be? Pretty wimpy example, I know. But I think you get the idea. If you want more participation, then use questions with a more universal appeal. It'll give us newbies something to chew on, and I'll bet that the "old-timers" will have some interesting (to say the least!) things to say about these "basic" questions. I wouldn't be surprised to see some fascinating discussion threads springing up concerning the answers to these "easy" questions. Everyone could learn something from a return to the basics. But, hey! I might be barking up the wrong tree, here. I understand the definition of *trivia* as being "useless information". So, if I'm way off base, well, uh...Have a Nice Day! --Chuck Henderson = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 16:09:38 -1000 From: jburka@Glue.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) Message-Id: <4c7fp2$3fd@geog25.umd.edu> Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Subject: Re: Trivia Quesation #10 In article , Chuck Henderson wrote: >Well, David; you asked, so I figure it's okay to put my two cents in, even >though I haven't been around here very long. > >I've been looking at the Trivia Questions, and I have a hard time relating >to them. Fergeddabout knowing the answers! The questions seem to be >designed for the elite members of the kite flying community, ie; those who >attend and compete at all the festivals and know that so-and-so won >such-and-such event; guys and gals who know the names of all the board >members on the AKA, or where and when a particular event was held, or who >designed a particular kite, etc.... I strongly disagree with this assessment. The questions aren't about being "elite" enough to be part of an international clique. They *are* about being involved in some way or another. Virtually all of the questions can be answered from having read the right reference, whether a book (like David Pelham's _Kites_, one of many books where you could have found the answer to questions about the Rokkaku, the Cody, the Hargrave Box, and so forth), a newsletter (the AKA's publication _Kiting_ will tell you who won which award at that year's annual convention), or magazine (hmmm...memory fades, but I think there was at least one world's record question, the answer for which could almost certainly be found somewhere in Kite Lines). It's not *who* you know. It's *what* you know. There are *many* ways to learn. rec.kites is one of them. The trivia questions series is bringing up some fairly esoteric knowledge that perhaps not many readers would have. And it's not taking a trip to a bunch of festivals to learn the answers! >How about some questions for us beginners? Like "When flying in front of >an upwind obstruction, how far away from it should you (and your kite) be? But that's not a *trivia* question. You acknowledge trivia as being "useless information." Utility, of course, is subjective, but the sort of question you propose would probably be classes as useful by most folks. Trivial Pursuit would have been a boring game if most people had know most of the answers... Jeff (who wonders if this thread might cause the old "purity" test and its declaimer's cries of elitism to resurface... ;-) -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | Pithy, insightful quote to be inserted when one | |jburka@glue.umd.edu | occurs to me. *If* one occurs to me. | |http://www.wam.umd.edu/~jeffy/html/home.html | = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =