Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:01:44 -1000 From: cfbd@southern.co.nz (Colin Douthwaite) Message-Id: <459e7o$22t@southern.co.nz> Organization: Southern InterNet Services Subject: One Sky One World 95 ==================================================================== ONE SKY /|\ ONE WORLD /::| \ /::::| \ INTERNATIONAL KITE FLY FOR PEACE /::::::| \ /::::::::| \ \::::::::| / \::::::| / North Hagley Park \::::| / \::| / Sunday, October 8, 1995 \|/ + + + + + -Bob Harris- + + +++ ===================================================================== Disappointing turn out this year for One Sky One World with no more than 20 kites flying at any one time. Last year at 3 p.m. there were more than 60. There was no publicity this year. :-( Disappointing wind. 1 to 4 knots and variable. Even the Icarex Stranger on 15 metre lines struggled to perform well although I managed a 35 minute continuous fly with the heavier Carrington Stranger by flying it on very long lines, 60 to 80 metres, to get into some better wind. The Octopus simply would not fly. Had a dogfight with a young golden labrador whose owner actually stood and watched the spectacle of me trying to keep a Peter Lloyd Indian Fighter airborne whilst the dog chased and leapt underneath for all of 20 minutes. It was a question of who would get tired first. The owner even asked me if the dog was bothering me - I told her that it would if I could not keep the kite flying. Finally she did restrain the dog and I was able to bring the kite down. Any of you fighter kite aces ever flown any dogs in aerial combat ? Got the first sighting of Yvonne de Mille's latest masterpiece, Moon Goddess, which she told me was not quite finished. The Moon Goddess is a much more ethereal lady than Yvonne's Sea Spirit which many of you will have seen in flight or in photographs. ==================================================================== = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 03:42:42 -1000 From: mielse@euronet.nl (Emiel Stroeve) Message-Id: <45e0op$eq4@news.euro.net> Organization: Euronet Internet Subject: Re: One Sky One World 95 In the Netherlands we had the One Sky One World in Oostvoorne. I didn't do much walking around, but here's a thing or two on last sunday. To start with the weather: perfect, sun and a nice 20-22 degrees celcius. The wind was South-South/West 3-4 bft. Because of this it was very crowded on the beach. Because of low winds and a bumpy beach buggy riding wasn't very spectacular, but the rest was really worth while. Next to a lot of nice demo's, kite jumping was mentioned and promoted more than once! When I see chaps below 16 years of age with huge Hawk-like delta's called Widow Maker and I hear the jumping-promotion I wonder if everybody knows what their doing. Besides this and a few very noisy kites we had a very nice O-S-O-W day. Aoxo, Emiel Who was there with Chuck and amongst a lot off kites a finished 8m^2 Sputnik (complete with bridle error, grrrrrr :-( ) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 09:32:15 -1000 From: cfbd@southern.co.nz (Colin Douthwaite) Message-Id: <46693v$l20@southern.co.nz> Organization: Southern InterNet Services Subject: Re: One Sky One World 95 Emiel Stroeve (mielse@euronet.nl) wrote: : In the Netherlands we had the One Sky One World in Oostvoorne. I : didn't do much walking around, but here's a thing or two on last : sunday. > Next to a lot of nice demo's, kite jumping was mentioned and > promoted more than once! When I see chaps below 16 years of age > with huge Hawk-like delta's called Widow Maker and I hear the > jumping-promotion I wonder if everybody knows what their doing. Why is it that all this talk of Kite Jumping in Europe reminds me of the words of that old 1960's song ? And how many deaths will it take to be known That too many people have died ? The answer my friend is blowing in the wind, The answer is blowing in the wind ! Bye, = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 03:04:35 -1000 From: sc5@prism.gatech.edu (SPC) Message-Id: <4686p3$saj@acmex.gatech.edu> Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Subject: Re: One Sky One World 95 In article <46693v$l20@southern.co.nz>, Colin Douthwaite wrote: >Why is it that all this talk of Kite Jumping in Europe reminds me of >the words of that old 1960's song ? (edited quote from _Blowing In The Wind_) I just thought I would interject at this point that many activities humans enjoy are inherently dangerous, perhaps even fatal. Diving (both sky and scuba), bungee jumping, mountain climbing and auto racing come to mind. Why is it we choose to criticize folks who enjoy kite jumping? After all, it is their life in the final analysis. Who are we to be critical of them just because their particular slant on kiting isn't our particular "cup of tea"? Steve *************************************************** * I'm not a participant in any organized hobby... * * I'm a kiteflier! * ******************** aoxomoxoa ******************** http://server1.admin.gatech.edu/fac/steve/kiting/kiting.htm = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 21:38:13 -1000 From: mielse@euronet.nl (Emiel Stroeve) Message-Id: <46cvr2$9cd@news.euro.net> Organization: Euronet Internet Subject: Re: One Sky One World 95 sc5@prism.gatech.edu (SPC) wrote: >In article <46693v$l20@southern.co.nz>, >Colin Douthwaite wrote: >>Why is it that all this talk of Kite Jumping in Europe reminds me of >>the words of that old 1960's song ? >(edited quote from _Blowing In The Wind_) >I just thought I would interject at this point that many activities >humans enjoy are inherently dangerous, perhaps even fatal. Diving (both >sky and scuba), bungee jumping, mountain climbing and auto racing come to mind. >Why is it we choose to criticize folks who enjoy kite jumping? After all, >it is their life in the final analysis. Who are we to be critical of >them just because their particular slant on kiting isn't our particular >"cup of tea"? If you put it like this: no, we sould not criticize people on what they do. But kite jumping is sometimes promoted by people who know how to jump, people who know the danger. If newbee's buy a so called Widow Maker or anything with lots of power and start jumping, things really can go wrong. With bungee jumping and the rest the risks are known by people, there's a lot of support when you actually bungee-jump. With kite jumping the risks are not known by unexperienced kiters, they don't know what happens when the wind start powering up. Of course we should not critice experienced jumpers, but we should critice them if they show it to the unexperienced just for commercial reasons. In Holland there once was a comparison between jumping and buggying, and yes, the very unexperienced reporter stated that buggying was much more dangerous than kite jumping...... see you up there, Emiel = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 03:40:18 -1000 From: Richard Bettis Message-Id: <536826003wnr@fats.demon.co.uk> Organization: Health & Safety Lab Subject: Re: One Sky One World 95 In article: <4686p3$saj@acmex.gatech.edu> sc5@prism.gatech.edu (SPC) writes: > I just thought I would interject at this point that many activities > humans enjoy are inherently dangerous, perhaps even fatal. Diving (both > sky and scuba), bungee jumping, mountain climbing and auto racing come to mind. > > Why is it we choose to criticize folks who enjoy kite jumping? After all, > it is their life in the final analysis. Who are we to be critical of > them just because their particular slant on kiting isn't our particular > "cup of tea"? > > Steve > When we have the non-flying public, and particularly the legislators, educated to realise that kite-jumping and safer forms of kiting have a similar relationship to that between 'auto racing' and everyday driving, then we can be more tolerant of the higher risk forms of kiting. At present, any kite related accidents are likely to lead to local laws banning *ANY* form of kite flying. ("But officer, you can't use a 3ft single line delta to jump....") -- +=============================================================================+ | Richard Bettis | "I make no warranty with respect to this | | | statement and disclaim any implied/explicit | | | suggestions of usefulness for any purpose" | +=============================================================================+ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 17:36:08 -1000 From: kreed94136@aol.com (KReed94136) Message-Id: <47jvr8$lbn@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: One Sky One World 95 Dear rbettis@fats just writing to say that I do agree with you that we should be more tolerant of power kiters flights. Safety is of course should be the utmost importance I haven't met any power jumping enthusiasts including myself that want to get hurt. The main reason I am writing however is I helped organize a One Sky One World event in Austin Texas this year. We invited four different news stations and three news papers. One Paper and Three News Stations should up to give coverage. Thank The Skies for the O.J. Trials to be over... ( they have no big news to cover). For Most of the Stations and for the paper we let them just mill aboout and explore the sights of our festival providing the pertinant info on different aspects of the event, our local club, and kiting in general. But for one station we spent 30 minutes discussing power kiting, traction kitins, and buggying. I set up a 6 stack of 10 ft. Maximas as I talked about power jumpers in Australia (second hand of course.) Then we set out for the show of this particular festival. The winds were 5-25mph and for the 5 minutes they video taped the flight it was 15-20 so I got grass skiing a little. When of the main points I stressed when interviewd is" You have to have respect for the wind and realize what it is capable of doing to you.!" Out of the three stations we got two 12 sec. blurbs on the One Sky One World festival, and our club the Texas Skyriders Kite Club. One story of 1 1/2 minutes on the power kiting aspect of kiting, with ample mentions of the club, and OSOW. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:17:13 -1000 From: Richard Bettis Message-Id: <834010094wnr@fats.demon.co.uk> Organization: Health & Safety Lab Subject: Re: One Sky One World 95 In article: <47jvr8$lbn@newsbf02.news.aol.com> kreed94136@aol.com (KReed94136) writes: > Dear rbettis@fats just writing to say that I do agree with you that we > should be more tolerant of power kiters flights. Safety is of course > should be the utmost importance I haven't met any power jumping > enthusiasts including myself that want to get hurt. Actually, I was advocating *intolerance*. At present I think that other people's 'power kiting' may well get all kite fliers a bad name, and encourage local authorities to ban *all* kite flying in many areas. Perhaps if 'power kiters' call themselves 'wind launched hang-gliders' we can put expect legislators to put them in a different mental pigeon hole. (possibly even a more accurate one; I'm sure that 'power kiters' have more in common with hang-gliders, bungee jumpers, drag racers etc than they do with the kids at my local 'kite workshop') -- +===========================================================================+ | Richard Bettis | "My lines and life are free; free as the | | | road, loose as the winde. | |Kite Fliers Quotes (maybe): | George Herbert (1593 - 1633) | +===========================================================================+ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =